Conservatives against liberals/Liberals against conservatives: Don’t you ppl see your trained to hate each other?
If you go to any Occupy movement and ask the protesters what they think of the tea party just about all of them will have something negative to say without providing any facts or proof. Just complete talking points from political pundits on MSNBC and liberal Hollywood stars, and I don’t care what anyone says these occupy movements are predominately LIBERAL.
You ask someone who is affiliated with the tea party or someone who supports the message of the tea party and just about all of them also have something negative to say about Occupy movement protesters.
When fact of the matter is BOTH government and Financial institutions are to blame for the destruction of the economy and middle class. Obama’s top advisor’s are from wall street and so was George Bush Jr. so why the fight?
OWS needs the tea party as much as the tea party needs them for if both movements do not come together you will only have Americans against Americans. Which leads me back to my original question
Conservatives against liberals/Liberals against conservatives: Don’t you ppl see your trained to hate each other?
So why
I don’t hate leftists, I pity them.
Ooooooo… That pesky New World Order!
They fooled us again, didn’t they.
there is alot of truth in this, i for one do not believe in extreme ideas
I have been to OWS several times and participated in marches and such and no I am not a liberal. I am very conservative. People can have different opinions and still stand together. I met people of all ideas there at OWS, even marxist, and everyone is treated with respect and encouraged to have a voice in the movement. It is about the people having a voice since the media lies. OWS is NOT a liberal movement. It is a peoples movement.
Are you suggesting we’d be better off if everyone held the same views and there were no conflicting views expressed on fundamental issues? There are such societies, but they are not democracies. It’s not hate; it’s people expressing their fundamental values, which, in a democracy, are diverse.
Some times the rhetoric gets extreme, and rational debate is lacking–but I prefer this to totalitarianism or fascism, where freedom of political expression is nonexistent.
Yes, I see that very clearly. But how am I supposed to just stop the hate when liberals make sure that I am discriminated against? They make me a target of anti-white violence. Not lately no, but I don’t get out much. I wonder if they care how many times I’ve been beaten or raped by an angry black person because of all their victim brainwashing? Like when I was a KID! It’s a wonder I haven’t gone completely crazy.
Well I’m a liberal against Conservatives against liberals (actually, I’m a centrist, but that makes me liberal in most conservatives eyes) and I agree with you. Americans are being brainwashed to hate each other and to treat compromise and collaboration like its a dirty word.
The inverse of your example is also true: ask any conservative what they think of the OWS movement and they’ll say something about college grads who need to take a bath and get a job, not realizing that most OWS participants are middle age/middle class people who want more accountability in government, not unemployed 20-somethings wanting America to become a socialist state.
There was a story about the Richmond Tea Party and the Occupy Richmond movement getting together for a series of meetings and discovering just how much they had in common with each other. Of course, you’d never hear about it on the national news because, like you said, Americans are being systematically brainwashed to loathe and revile each other. Makes us easier to conquer, that way.
I am anything but “trained.” I voted independently for many long years, voting for both Dems and Repubs that met my standards. Now that the GOP has an agenda to get out the President at the cost of the American people I am appalled. They couldn’t care less about the poor or the middle class and do nothing but protect the rich. This has become crystal clear. I’d rather eat glass than ever vote for a Republican again. Call it what you will, I pay close attention to both sides. The Dems are anything but perfect but they are far more tuned into the realities of this country’s problems than the GOP are.
You are right there is not reason to hate one another. The establishment uses the media and political parties to push people onto one side or the other, left or right. They mislead the people into thinking there are only two sides when in reality it is much more complex. It is easy to see the big banks and establishment control in the current GOP primary elections. They are largely dismissing or ignoring Ron Paul because he is the only candidate who speaks out about real issues that would negatively impact the big banks and the military industrial complex. He also has the Jewish lobby attacking him because he isn’t supportive of a war against Iran. OWS and the Tea Party should be loving Ron Paul but the Tea party people are told by Fox News that Ron Paul is unelectable and his foreign policy is crazy while the OWS people hear the same thing from MSNBC and CNN.
Anyways got lost there for a minute, the establishment wants the plebians to fight amongst themselves so that no real change will be enacted.
I understand what you are saying but the problem is we do live in a fairly free society where plurality is respected, although some viewpoints get more attention than others. Even in the liberal-left, there is going to be disagreement, even hostility sometimes. When I go on alternet.org, I do have disagreements with the authors and other bloggers. I have no doubt there are disagreements within the conservative movement and the libertarian movement as well. That is how America operates. We have a free press and people have the right to read whatever books and political periodicals they want to read.